This doesn’t look like a problem with the site (Emacs Wiki) but like a problem with how your package manager is set up. In the guide to verifying the ISO on the Linux Mint website it does say "Note: Unless you trusted this signature in the past, or a signature which trusted it, GPG should warn you that the signature is not trusted. M-x package-install RET gnu-elpa-keyring-update RET. Possibly it just took him more than nine minutes to edit the page before he saved it? – DrewAdams, Hm, maybe this is unrelated. What I am trying to do is reach a consensus about a consistent syntax, for all of the reasons I already stated. Already on GitHub? No idea what caused it or what the problem is. The complaint is that I changed the Use this directive to You can use. – DrewAdams, I think the problem is that the HTML being generated right now is invalid:
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– I don’t think this ever worked as you intended it to. I edited. Suggestions: If you have suggestions (not problems) for the Emacs Wiki (not Emacs), please contribute them at EmacsWikiSuggestions. Now that emacs can find MinGW64's gnupg, the package list updates normally without any errors. Usually I am able to verify signatures using the verify option in GPG, but this doesn't work when attempting to verify the Litecoin Core client DMG.. For example: $ gpg --verify litecoin-0.14.2-osx.dmg.asc litecoin-0.14.2-osx.dmg gpg: Signature made Mon Jul 31 14:44:45 2017 PDT gpg: using RSA key FE3348877809386C gpg: Can't check signature: No public key It is then not surprising that maintainers of melpa or other archives have not yet made the required changes. On my laptop the path was without the dot from the start. Remember that in order for them to be able to decrypt your file, they need your public key too. in the same place but that means you'll except any old signature so I wouldn't run like that permanently. I think the distinction between physical keys and logical key sequences isn’t important enough, in the context of EmacsWiki, to discard the idea of using syntax in wiki pages, because there are very few instances of writing out a full key name (like ‘Control’)--almost every case is a key sequence. Another consideration is the zillions of existing occurrences here. Common sense stuff like list items and inline markup can be nested (bold list items, for example). I just got this error when trying to save a page after some simple (trivial) editing. For example, to check the signature of the file gnupg-2.2.24.tar.bz2, you can use this command: $ gpg --verify gnupg-2.2.24.tar.bz2.sig gnupg-2.2.24.tar.bz2. And if it turns out that nobody ever uses the kbd element, then we can remove it again. Typing quote marks doesn’t suffice on the wiki, however, for some key sequences and other fixed-width font renderings. I disagree that we should recommend that users use to represent key sequences. From a reader’s perspective, having several different syntaxes used to represent input makes it difficult to learn. Yeah, tt simply changes the font to teletype, it doesn’t mean “code” and thus I think the result is correct. I run Emacs on MSYS2 & Windows10. Failed to verify signature archive-contents.sig: No public key for 066DAFCB81E42C40 created at 2019-09-26T16:10:02-0500 using RSA. This is expected and perfectly normal." I was able to update the GPG key adding the keyserver argument to gpg. And it would be helpful if it rendered in HTML using tags, which tend to look distinct in current browsers. I don’t have a problem with (Anonymous?) Just one opinion. In the guide to verifying the ISO on the Linux Mint website it does say "Note: Unless you trusted this signature in the past, or a signature which trusted it, GPG should warn you that the signature is not trusted. You’ll see that this sequence of events took place: Vegard’s update wiped out my previous update. You signed in with another tab or window. rGb6275f3bda8e: gpg: Fix extra check for sign usage of a data signature. I guess you’re saying that a workaround is to do this? To repeat: this issue arose on Emacs 27.1 distributed for Windows via MSYS2/MinGW64. $ gpg --import yourfriends.key That key will have their name and email in it, just like the one you made. Why is it necessary? And there’s a reason that Emacs itself uses quotes, even beyond the obvious one that the default font is typically the same one used for key sequences and the like (a fixed-width font): When you have a key sequence such as C-x n a a a reader can mistake the sequence limits. Of all the thousands of words on that page, the point of contention is that the sentence «To represent keyboard input, you can wrap the key sequence with tags or with backquote and apostrophe, like this (You can also use just …)» should be shortened to «To represent keyboard input, you can wrap the key sequence with tags» – that sounds like a simple change to make. But melpa and org archives do not: As result of that, spacemacs would not load 15 packages. – Alex Schroeder, See UnicodeEncoding#ucs-cmds.el. from someone's website) No magic or edge cases. from someone's website) – DrewAdams. Save it in the … set package-check-signature to nil, e.g. I know that some people have thought that the problem was that pages were not being locked properly for edits, so that two people editing at the same time could accidentally overwrite each other’s edits. I'm sure things will improved over the next few months for everyone to adopt. No matter how many colons are used for the last paragraph, it does not indent more. Following these verification instructions will ensure the downloaded files really came from us. Step 1, Acquire the Public Key. *Error Buffer* has a message. – DrewAdams. Sign in Check server time, its fine. with something like: gpg --homedir ~/.emacs.d/elpa/gnupg \ --quick-set-expire … This yearning for one correct way sounds a bit OCD, to me. We will use the gpg program to check the signatures. gpg: public key not found: verbose: Linux - Newbie: 4: 12-31-2009 04:00 PM: Revoking GPG key with only passphrase and public key: djib: Linux - Security: 2: 03-13-2007 04:20 AM: apt-get GPG signature check unknow/illegal/corrupt: mofo: Linux - Software: 2: 05-20-2005 02:59 PM: GPG Data, Secret Key but no Public Key? If your keys are already too old, causing signature verification errors when installing packages, then in order to install this package you can do the following: - Fetch the new key manually, e.g. Somewhere I found that you could install the package "gnu-elpa-keyring-update" to help with this, but this had no effect for me, my emacs still fails to start, I'm stuck not even being able to run my first prelude boot. – AlexSchroeder, I just edited and saved a reply someone posted at DrewsElispLibraries. This issue may have been resolved (see Emacs Bug) which actually is not a bug but my (user) error. I tried yet again to get emacs-w3m to work as described above. I solved it using the following steps in order: Installing Gpg4win; Make sure that the folder c:/Progra~2/GnuPG/bin is on your path before any other installed versions of the GnuPG executables (in my case, I had it installed via msys2). See Eli Zaretskii's explanation why that is required (in the link above). The awesome Spacemacs experience, The backtrace captured when I do emacs --debug-init. – Alex Schroeder. Or that the path is fine, but somewhere that folder should have been created and it wasn't?. Quotes set the thing that is quoted off from the surrounding text. Users see ‘C-x e’ when they interact with Emacs help. gpg --verified the files. I’d disagree with an attempt to, e.g., change existing pages to substitute . It’s a rare exception when I have to fiddle there (embedded backquote chars). And as a contributor, which syntax should I use? gpg --homedir ~/.emacs.d/elpa/gnupg --keyserver hkp:// --recv-keys 066DAFCB81E42C40 WIth that, the elpa archive gets updated. If these two hash values match, then the signature is good and the software wasn’t tampered with. It didn’t work. "<2>" might do what you want: "<2>". I certainly don’t use a combination of different editing syntaxes gratuitously – I do so only when I see that I have to. derivative works have to grant the same rights and impose the same Temporarily disable signature checking in package. I used cygwin in 1990's, but I have not used WIndows for over 10 years (other than being conduit to access other OS'es), so I'm afraid I can't help you. (e.g. Each OpenPGP key may have signatures from other users. Checking my "~/.emacs.d/elpa" folder there is no "gnupg" folder inside. And the rendered result doesn’t show the quote marks that users see in Emacs help. the Well, it seems that it is signed by a different key from Tor developers keys - they should defenately update the scripts and manuals! This page is not for questions or problems about Emacs – see OpenQuestions for that. I had previously cleared my cache, so I don’t think that was the problem. I disagree with a proposal to use something like for Emacs key sequences. Now it can sometimes do crazy things, depending on where it occurs.). This is a regression. For example, on GetHelp, I count at least 4, slightly differing syntaxes used to markup keyboard input. Hence the resort to multiple ones. What’s gained by such a recommendation? It doesn’t help readers or writers. Command output: gpg: Signature made Thu 26 Sep 2019 04:10:02 PM CDT using RSA key ID 81E42C40. Let me be more clear. The signature is a hash value, encrypted with the software author’s private key. It’s one of the reasons I’ve preferred publishing my own documentation, like this, rather than contributing here. This was for win 7 and MSYS2 with the same incorrect windows path appended to a unix path. Thanks. I disagree that we’re recommending anything, here; we’re just saying what editing syntaxes you can use, to get what effects. I have a problem with our seeming to impose a single editing syntax – as opposed to just telling users how different syntaxes get rendered, and then letting them do whatever they want to get whatever effect they want. I’d suggest a dedicated syntax for keyboard input, probably . By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and Or he used a raw client that interacts with the wiki text directly, didn’t post back the last modification date, thus diff3 was unable to determine the ancestor for conflict resolution, and he ended up overwriting what you had done. some key sequences) the only thing we can get, that approximates Emacs help, involves a different form of single-quote chars. Unfortunately, we don’t have such a simple, single editing syntax here (AFAIK). HTH. file on a USB drive) Download it from the internet (e.g. In some cases the server might actually be at fault - still makes sense to group them like this. I think that if people are reading through that page, that’s not the message they’re getting. Drew, I appreciate your taking the time to write that response, but it doesn’t address the arguments I’ve made since I started this discussion. However, after clicking List only major changes it was listed. This: "<2>" gets rendered with two closing curly double-quotes, not with straight double-quotes: ”<2>”. similar licenses. Which means that we resort to something slightly different (usually involving using both (1) quote marks, to get the quote-mark representation, and (2) `##’, to get the code font. This issue manifested itself by starting plain emacs with the -Q switch (no customizations of any kind) and executing package-list-packages. And it causes people to accidentally overwrite a previous edit by someone else (since it doesn’t appear in the editable text unless they refresh that text). Signature checking perhaps can be enabled then. Could it be that it's a keystroke error?. This work is licensed to you under version 2 of the Right now you need to use : before you can use ::. Editing in Emacs/holy mode. gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found To represent keyboard input, you can wrap the key sequence with. The associate editor handling her submission would use Alice's public key to check the signature to verify that the submission indeed came from Alice and that it had not been modified since Alice sent it. I’m pretty sure it used to work. The public key it was signed with; The .asc file itself; You do already have the signed .exe file and the signature. I much prefer the simple approach used at emacs.SE, even if it means I have to change apostrophes in pasted code to backquotes. Perhaps diff3 will sometimes merge things and drop changes without marking them as a conflict? It’s not as if people wanted to invent multiple such. I can then close it with a link on how it got resolved. There's a variable that I think is called package-check-package-signatures, but I won't swear to it. This problem has bitten several people, and the only workaround seems to be to remember to manually force a cache refresh when, say, you are looking at the editable page. rGb0d6e26bf3c8: gpg: Fix extra check for sign usage of a data signature. I refrefreshed RecentChanges (with rollbacks and minor changes included), but my edit does not appear. So I request that the two of you pick one syntax and document it as the recommended one, without also recommending unnecessary alternatives on the TextFormattingRules page, which is already very complicated. That does seem to work. – Alex Schroeder, The navigation menus on the left of the site overflow into the page content in some languages such as a Russian. I propose to leave this issue open until I get some resolution. preferring . In order to verify a signature, you will first need the public GPG key of the person who created the signature. It’s just a description of what the rendering system does. On emacs.StackExchange there is a single editing syntax for getting a code font: wrapping with backquote chars. Some more info on this, in case it helps. That wiki page is listed, but still at the time and user of the previous edit. Let users use what they want to do what they want. By signing the key they certify it belongs to the specific person. I think the caching problem you reported earlier is something else (and much trickier, apparently). If they’re the same then why recommend the one that’s much harder to type? # dpkg-source -x libevent_2.0.12-stable-1.dsc gpgv: Signature made Fri Jun 17 07:12:50 2011 PDT using DSA key ID 7ADF9466 gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found dpkg-source: warning: failed to verify signature on ./libevent_2.0.12-stable-1.dsc Any idea how to fix this warning? Apparently our url-privacy-level differs? For that, I need to use . Are they thus confused also by Emacs help? It may be technically impractical to enforce a single markup now, but we can at least recommend consistency and simplify the documentation, to start inching toward improvements. What do you suggest we do? I first try `…’ everywhere (often I copy+paste from commentary in Lisp files). So I ended up doing 55, 56, 57, and 58, before I realized that the major edit for 54 had been undone (i.e. Thanks for your help, I was having this problem on and off (different $PATH's) but the comment on the bug that you linked above about posix paths not recognizing the windows path got me thinking... You can also set the package-gnupghome-dir in your .spacemacs with: note the unix style /c/ as we are running emacs through MSYS. I see no harm in adding it: C-x C-s → C-x C-s – Alex Schroeder. I read TextFormattingRules again and it seems pretty good to me. It worked. In this case, I think the drawback is indeed significant. AFAIK, we don’t have such a thing. It just happened now. Next you must fetch the public key. I disagree with a proposal to use something like for Emacs key sequences. GNU General Public License. rGef50fdf82a45: gpg: Extra check for sign usage when verifying a data signature. I just started using emacs, so I don't know which folders should exist and where. Save it in a Folder.Step 3, Acquire a copy of the signature-file in question. the source of GetHelp, as I mentioned, there were 4 different syntaxes used within the space of a few paragraphs, and it was not clear which one was correct or preferred. Cryptographic signing of packages is a new feature of 27. On GNU/Linux I would have suggested examining TMPDIR or similar environment variables, but I doubt that matters for you. Import the public key. I can only speak for myself, but I will be much more interested in contributing here if this issue is solved. The associate editor handling her submission would use Alice's public key to check the signature to verify that the submission indeed came from Alice and that it had not been modified since Alice sent it. Generate a file called gpg.conf in ~/.emacs.d/elpa/gnupg/ with the following line: keyserver hkp:// Then, run the following command: gpg --homedir ~/.emacs.d/elpa/gnupg --receive-keys 066DAFCB81E42C40 Now, Emacs should be able to get data from Elpa without any error messages: M-x package-refresh-contents RET I tried to use the given script to handle it for me, but that has failed too. M-: (setq package-check-signature nil) RET. Perhaps simply highlight any sequence of (<[A-Z]>|\b[SMF]-(\S|f[0-9]))\b) and don’t rely on weird quotes? The browser cache does not get refreshed when pages are edited and saved. I see. Spacemacs splash window comes partially up, but Spacemacs or Evil mode are not active. Consider, for instance, a linked file name, such as apu.el. (You need to put some spaces after the `:’.). (e.g. Anybody else? Now I’m not a zealous practitioner of the Zen of Python, but neither am I an uncritical follower of TMTOWTDI. That is why I felt that it was safe for me to disable signature checking altogether. – AlexSchroeder. CreativeCommons But now we’re telling them that they should convert each such quoted key sequence (obtained from Emacs) to -embedded sequences (for the wiki). You can do this automatically with the following command: gpg --auto-key-locate nodefault,wkd --locate-keys This is the output of the command on my machine: Import the Public Key into GPG.Step 2, Acquire a copy of the file in question. I install CentOS 5.5 on my laptop (it has no … gpg --verify callrecording-13.0.9.tgz.gpg gpg: Signature made Fri 15 Jan 2016 09:39:31 AM CST using RSA key ID 69D2EAD9 gpg: requesting key 69D2EAD9 from hkp server gpg: keyserver timed out gpg: Can’t check signature: No public key For example, you may choose to receive this work under Question: is this a problem at the melpa site or do I have to have gpg installed and operational to use melpa? Restart Emacs several times until things settle down. (In reply to Gregory Szorc [:gps] from comment #36) > Git supports signing commits and tags with GPG. I edited the page with Safari. Thanks, Alex. I added that snippet into the dotspacemacs/user-init part of my init.el, and Spacemacs downloaded the required packages and started succesfully. I was able to update the GPG key adding the keyserver argument to gpg. with something like: gpg --homedir ~/.emacs.d/elpa/gnupg --receive-keys 066DAFCB81E42C40 - Modify the expiration date of the old key, e.g. On my iPad it looks as follows: The variant you prefer would be this, correct? Following the notes at the site, but I cannot seem to verify the signature of the kernel. Now, the doc string explains: ‘default’ (to compute a value according to ‘url-privacy-level’). – AlexSchroeder. I then clicked the browser ‘Back’ button and tried, successfully, to save again. Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community. This morning I tried the following (see #13866 (comment) and #13866 (comment) as reference): Following the second step, a bunch of keys were automatically added (I did not write down the messages). with something like: gpg --homedir ~/.emacs.d/elpa/gnupg --receive-keys 066DAFCB81E42C40 - Modify the expiration date of the old key, e.g. But melpa and org archives do not: (Spacemacs) - … I'm not sure if > repo/git is smart enough to import GPG keys from public keyservers or if you > need to do it beforehand. They’ll see multiple ways to do things, and if they want to specifically highlight keypresses, then they can do it. I’ve never seen this before. (Five consecutive apostrophes used to produce bold italic, for example. Sounds reasonable to me. This is not document anywhere, I think. This problem started several months ago. To install the correct version of gnupg, issue the following in MSYS2 shell: Then make sure that your PATH points to this gnupg and not the MSYS2 one: After this fix, my Spacemacs starts OK with no errors. – AlexSchroeder. Is this a cache issue? WIth that, the elpa archive gets updated. Well, 55 did not use 54 as its starting point – it used 53 instead. the work, as long as that license imposes the restriction that I was able to update the GPG key adding the keyserver argument to gpg. Some regular expression to specify how to recognise the markup would be great. The RPM utility within Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 automatically tries to verify the GPG signature of … The scenario is like this: I download the RPMs, I copy them to DVD. Since you do not have keys of those people in the keyring, GnuPG can’t verify the signatures and this is what you’re being warned about. rG214b0077264e: gpg: Extra check for sign usage when verifying a data signature. And even if were now such a cure-all thing (which I doubt, but haven’t tested), it’s certainly a verbose way of editing (a minor pain). License, the XEmacs manual license, or Have a question about this project? The only problem is that if I try to install on a computer that's not connected to internet, I can't validate the public key. If Spacemacs maintainers feel differently, please proceed as you prefer. Alternatively, you may choose to receive this work under any other Interestingly, the markup in this particular header renders properly in the TOC, Markup cannot be nested by default. I don’t think I’ve ever run into this. There are many ways you can obtain someone's public key, including: Physically obtaining a copy directly from someone (e.g. It needs to be in the (defun dotspacemacs/user-init () function of your .spacemacs so that it takes effect before the repos are checked. privacy statement. HTH – DrewAdams. – DrewAdams, Anybody else? – AlexSchroeder, The irony being that markup in headers is rendered in the (javascript-built) TOC – MichaelPaulukonis, The link text retains its crude ASCII formatting. In other words, the first time I looked for the pubring.kbx file on the laptop I did see the gnupg (without the dot) directory. Dunno if this is strictly related to the browser cache problem that I’ve been assuming exists, but there is a fine example of losing page updates that just occurred. I want to make a DVD with some useful packages (for example php-common). This might be the same problem as EditingGetsOldPageText, below, but since that speaks specifically about emacs-w3m, I’m not sure. Note that this page is not about EmacsWikiMode. an Emacs Lisp library, using the Download link). I guess if the following two don’t line up exactly, we can use some CSS fix it: I’m assuming that the exact indentation is determined by the browser defaults. (I said the same thing in that emacs.SE thread.) gpg --verified the files. – Thanks for your attention -- 2017-04-25, Can we shorten the text? Emphasis markup using apostrophes is the online inline markup that can be nested: ''italic '''bold''' and italic'' → italic bold and italic. In the printed versions, the Emacs manuals make a similar distinction (physical vs logical keys). If you're having trouble because a package isn't signed with the key you have yet you can temporarily set. And if all does is exactly what ## does (dunno whether that’s the case) then it’s a lot easier for users to use the latter. In the same browser session, I updated page DoReMi and saved. I don’t know if that problem also exists, but I do know that this cache problem has caused people to think there is a locking problem for edits. The Safari edit did not show up in the compose edit box, even though the page did show it. And it’s not just key bindings. I believe this was suggested before by someone else, but I failed to read it carefully or comprehend its significance. C:\emacs>gpg --verify gpg: Signature made 03/17/13 19:55:46 GMT Standard Time using RSA key ID 597F9E69 gpg: Can't check signature: No public key C:\emacs>gpg --keyserver --recv-keys 597F9E69 gpg: requesting key 597F9E69 from hkp server gpg: key 597F9E69: public key "Christoph Scholtes " imported gpg… Even if multiple syntaxes are allowed, for historical reasons if nothing else, there is no reason to recommend three different ways of doing it. There are many ways you can obtain someone's public key, including: Physically obtaining a copy directly from someone (e.g. Without the dot I get a "No such file or directory..." error (several actually). gpg --homedir ~/.emacs.d/elpa/gnupg --keyserver hkp:// --recv-keys 066DAFCB81E42C40 WIth that, the elpa archive gets updated. – DrewAdams, This is still happening, but I still cannot give a recipe for why or when it happens – it happens sometimes. Successfully merging a pull request may close this issue. And the editing syntax is less readable. I say “we should generally use…”, but more importantly, we should let people use whatever they prefer, as long as it gets the message across clearly. I disagree that there is a Need for canonical syntax for keyboard input. gpg: Signature made Thu Apr 5 22:19:36 2018 EDT using DSA key ID 46181433FBB75451 gpg: Can't check signature: No public key gpg: Signature made Thu Apr 5 22:19:36 2018 EDT using RSA key ID D94AA3F0EFE21092 gpg: Can't check signature: No public key Even if they were, we’re better off with a representation that reflects what users see in Emacs help. The same goes for representation of input and output, file names, and other things. Simple, explicit, already an HTML tag. Yes, it’s a bit of a pain, and somewhat error prone (you need to check well), but that’s what it takes. I guess I’m OK with the workaround, though it indents too far and adds too much vertical whitespace. But I’ve said all of this before. Hm, eww works for me, and my url-user-agent is set to default. It sounds like the public > key of the signer of that v1.12.4 tag can't be found. Thus I never install packages that I have not built myself. – VegardOye. GNU reset package-check-signature to … Assuming this isssue is not related to some details of my laptop setup, it still requires a fix of some kind.
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